Thursday, February 11, 2016

Pretty Important Article

Psephizo makes important points and raises significant questions.

Same Sex Marriage in Ancient Rome?

A commenter over at Anglican Down Under recently pointed out that Juvenal's Satire no. 2, lines 117 following (you can read it here) ribs marriage between two men.

Now I understand satire to be the satire of something real rather than imaginary, so I am imagining that Juvenal is ribbing an actual social phenomenon?

Or is there another accounting for why Juvenal takes on same sex marriage contemporary to his time in the ancient world?

So, is Juvenal pointing to something which some today say is new in our time?

This article makes clear that at least for a period (Nero to Domitian?) same sex marriage was tolerated in Roman society. But note something within the article is forcefully argued in another article here: there was no legal same sex marriage in ancient Rome, though there were same sex weddings celebrated. For another analysis, go here.

Tuesday, January 13, 2015

A or The Way Forward for ACANZP?

This post by Trevor Morrison (here) is definitely worth a look, especially, if not urgently, by those who are keen to find 'a way forward' for ACANZP in the pathway charted by Motion 30!

Added: for comparative reading, try this wonderful story of conversion.

Wednesday, August 13, 2014

Wednesday, June 25, 2014

Just a letter?

A post at ADU may be of interest in connection with understanding the Bible!

Friday, March 14, 2014


Miranda Threlfall-Holmes has a thoughtful post on 'Sex and Marriage'. I suggest she both gets a basic issue in current debates (when is sex sinful and when is it not) and offers an answer which begs other questions (when love is present sex is not sinful ... but that begs many questions re marriage, including why marry at all).

Time does not permit a full analysis of this post (and, in any case, that could be conducted by engaging in the comments at the post itself). Rather I want to lodge my own question here re sex which has been catalysed by her post:

why - from the perspective of Scripture as God's voice intruding in human affairs - is sex sinful in some circumstances and not in others?

To give a mere sketch of where an answer might head: sex is a physical act between two human beings which is invested with meaning beyond the basic biological fact concerning a purpose of sex, the procreation of another human being; it is the investment of meaning concerning sex which leads to concepts of sex is sometimes sinful and sometimes not; and it is the question of who invests meaning concerning sex which lies at the heart of our debates, with particular attention being paid to the following possible investors: the state, society, church, individuals and individual coupls.